Government might want to consider how it can wriggle more cleverly to balance the 25 per cent increase against its commitment to lift economic growth,

In the beginning, there was no paid staff. There were four members who gave $100 apiece to get things started.

In terms of chances for success against entrenched competitors, even if it's faster, better (and) cheaper, it can still be a huge hurdle to go against a big competitor.

If the price of doing the work for those businesses that are currently working with the union goes up, then the property owners have plenty of options to go to those companies who are not working with this union at the moment.

Eighty percent of participants pay all their staff above the minimum wage, and many of them are concerned about the flow-on effects of the 25 per cent increase to the minimum wage being promoted by NZ First and the Greens,

Even with pictures and videos we had, it's just really hard to explain the magnitude of the devastation.

A couple of bad cases have been picked out to drum up support to abolish youth rates though it is clear the stories are exceptions, not the rule.

They're about 10 miles from the ocean, and they'd never had water before. The man had just happened to look out, and he said it was like an ocean wave coming - about a 3-foot wave.

We wanted quite simply, and perhaps naively, to let both sides make their case

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